Saturday, June 22, 2013

Ten Powerhouse Gothic Stylized Actresses (Past and Present)

More or less, I picked these ten after I watched a handful of movies and performances. This is just my opinion, but, I believe these women know how to rock Goth. My picks were based off of acting ability, presence, and professional ability.

Helena Bonham Carter


Theda Bara

Chloƫ Moretz

Carolyn Jones

Ingrid Pitt

Brigitte Bardot

Taylor Momsen

Juliette Lewis

Elvira Mistress of the Dark

Goth Culture Worth and Value

The past couple of weeks (online and off) have been interesting. Mostly, I have been talking to people within Goth, Counterculture, and Subculture -mainly Goth. It was extremely difficult, but I and others came up with what I feel are some really tough questions.

Some of the same questions kept coming up over and over again:

How do you define Goth? (History or Modern Cyclic Trends)

Is there any value in a Goth culture that negates and destroys itself from the inside out?

Is there any difference between those with "special knowledge" about Goth, in comparison to those who either do it for fun, or are trying to pump you for some kind of misguided thrill?

Because of the constant inner-cultural turmoil, played-out gender-bias, and elitist mentality of the culture -is it by any surprise the culture has grown no larger than the current attention spans of those involved?

Are there any real "Goth Authorities", or those with ulterior motives, hidden agendas, and looking to capitalize off you, by either attempting to sell a product or service?

Because of the huge gaps in numbers of "school/college-educated Goths" as compared to "uneducated low-income Goths", are there many "business-types" that directly and forcefully take advantage of that fact?

Is the word and term "Goth" just an amorphous, yet clouded veil that anyone can piece-meal their own definition and vision upon?

How marketable is Goth, and have you been bought or sold?

Before you were Goth, what were you (really be truthful with yourself)?

Most of the questions led us to carefully evaluate the seriousness of the conversations at hand. There were a couple of people who left, and decided that there wasn't anything inherently interesting in what we were doing. Honestly, a majority of the people involved in Goth culture (that I attempted to talk to) didn't really feel there was anything "serious or of worth" in Gothic culture. The people who left before anything productive could be done mostly related Goth to having fun at "clubs, on online social-networks, or looking to benefit somehow by their culture (money, fame, prestige)".

The people who did take the most interest in the conversations were: artists, musicians, fashionistas, writers, and people who dealt mainly in online business by targeting the "Goth market".

The conversations over-all were mixed. No-one was overtly positive, negative, or indifferent. But, it was interesting that, although the interactions were not fully geared towards accomplishing anything for the culture (so-to-speak), at best, it did lead enough hope (if-you-will) for the continued survival of Goth.

The one thing that did jump out at me as the most important, was the fact that the entire "modern Goth culture" seemed to be completely shaped and influenced by the economics of Gothic entertainment (music, books, fashion, clubs, and concerts).

Through all of this, I finally attempted to simplify what I thought all of this was saying. It literally came down to "worth and value".

Let's define worth: defines "Worth" as:

1.good or important enough to justify (what is specified): advice worth taking; a place worth visiting.2.having a value of, or equal in value to, as in money: This vase is worth 12 dollars.3.having property to the value or amount of: They are worth millions.noun4.excellence of character or quality as commanding esteem: women of worth.5.usefulness or importance, as to the world, to a person, or for a purpose: Your worth to the world is inestimable.6.value, as in money.7.a quantity of something of a specified value: ten cents' worth of candy.8.wealth; riches; property or possessions: net worth. defines "Worth" as:
n.1. The quality that renders something desirable, useful, or valuable: the worth of higher education.2. Material or market value: stocks having a worth of ten million dollars.3. A quantity of something that may be purchased for a specified sum or by a specified means: ten dollars' worth of natural gas; wanted their money's worth.4. Wealth; riches: her net worth.5. Quality that commands esteem or respect; merit: a person of great worth.adj.1. Equal in value to something specified: worth its weight in gold.2. Deserving of; meriting: a proposal not worth consideration.3. Having wealth or riches amounting to: a person worth millions.Idioms:for all (one) is worthTo the utmost of one's powers or ability.for what it's worthEven though it may not be important or valuable: Here's my advice, for what it's worth.[Middle English, from Old English weorth; see wer-2 in Indo-European roots.] defines "worth" as:
1archaic : having monetary or material value
2archaic : estimable— for all one is worth: to the fullest extent of one's value or abilityOrigin of WORTH
Middle English, from Old English weorth worthy, of (a specified) value; akin to Old High German werd worthy, worthFirst Known Use: before 12th century3worth nounDefinition of WORTH
1a : monetary value <farmhouse and lands of little worth>b : the equivalent of a specified amount or figure <a dollar's worth of gas>2: the value of something measured by its qualities or by the esteem in which it is held <a literary heritage of great worth>3a : moral or personal value <trying to teach human worth>b : merit, excellence <a field in which we have proved our worth>4: wealth, riche

 As we -Goths- define our "worth" in subculture, I have come to find that most do this through adopting the values of the culture. This in itself has caused a spider-like social strata (three S words, wow). Also, this is the main reason for so many different hybridized versions of Goth. But, in order to understand what those "values" are, we must first understand what "value" means, and how it relates to our culture. defines "Value" as: 

noun1.relative worth, merit, or importance: the value of a college education; the value of a queen in chess.2.monetary or material worth, as in commerce or trade: This piece of land has greatly increased in value.3.the worth of something in terms of the amount of other things for which it can be exchanged or in terms of some medium of exchange.4.equivalent worth or return in money, material, services, etc.: to give value for value received.5.estimated or assigned worth; valuation: a painting with a current value of $500,000. defines "Value" as:

Culturally defined standards held by human individuals or groups about what is desirable, proper, beautiful, good or bad that serve as broad guidelines for social life. defines "Value" as:

 They are: (1) values exist at different levels of generality or abstraction; (2) values tend to be hierarchically arranged (3) values are explicit and implicit in varying degrees; and (4) values often are in conflict with one another.

In closing (mu-ah-ah, ahem), the culture of Goth finds it's worth and value in the same manner as every other culture. The differences are more often than not idealized by personal aesthetic, and subject to the influences of the three "E's" if you will:
Education, Entertainment, and Economics. Despite these theoretical facts, arrived at by my own finite investigation, the social dynamics and psychology in no way deviated substantially from the over-all dynamics of other culture groups.